Last » Shokzman: 02.15.2012 , 11:48 PM | #1: Quote. What Sidious is it? Tenebraethe Sith Lord Darth Vitiate who was known to his reconstituted Sith Empire as the Sith Emperor and to his Eternal Empire as Valkorionwas an ancient dark side entity of enormous power who manipulated galactic affairs for 1,500 years. GXrevs06. They've both killed their fair share of planets, I think, but Vitiate managed to harness all the death and destruction on a planet full of Sith Lords to grant himself immortality. The Emperor. Any updated opinions or new insights should be posted here. Green Lantern simply has better feats than Sidious. Kun is … Sidious was stated to be the most powerful ever when he was around. ... Lord Vitiate vs. Darth Sidious (self.whowouldwin) submitted 5 years ago by Rambo7112. Which Sidious almost failed at.) It's stated multiple times that Sidious is the most powerful Sith in history by multiple unbiased factual quotes, and not only does he have those, [he has the showings of power to back it up.] neither will just stand there while the other prepares a ritual. (http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/64880/3526018-2721837233-26681.jpg) Anyone who tells you Vitiate is stronger is someone who's knowledge on Sidious isn't very large. Palpatine corrupted the entire Jedi Order, blitzed three high level Jedi Masters, defeated Yoda, defeated Galen as soon as he got serious, subdued Vader multiple times, defeated Dark Empire Luke, and could've beat Windu with his force lightning. Vitiate = ~ TPM Sidious Valkorian = ~ TPM Sidious . Therefore, Valkorion is at least 236,677,140 times more powerful than Sidious. Overall sidious is winning this if he gets in close vitiate has no chance, and even with the force he has a huge edge. So yeah sidious is more powerful than vitiate. If you want to go that way he co-opted his master's (who, personally, was far more worthy in that he had almost achieved his own method of immortality before being killed in a drunken slumber. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Gallery 4 Disney Canon Respect Threads 5 Legends/EU Respect Threads 6 Others 7 References Emperor Sheev Palpatine, secretly the Dark Lord of the Sith Darth Sidious, was the last Supreme Chancellor of the Galactic Republic, the first and only emperor of the Galactic Empire, and arguably the most powerful Sith Lord in the galaxy's history. :D My Top 30 A.I. Level Three. Sidious is the more "realistic" version. Vitiate subdued Malak and Reven, incredible warriors nearly unmatched throughout the galaxy, and then killed all nine members of his Dark Council, took out a strike team of some of the Order's most powerful Jedi. Page 2 of 2 • 1, 2. Revan, Malek, and the council aren't as strong as them. Vitiate was overpowered to be honest. --Taken from The Complete Visual Dictionary, When Yoda crosses sabers with the movie's arch-villain, he doesn't launch into a pinwheeling display of acrobatics, as he did against Count Dooku in Episode II. 2. Born in 5113 BBY as the illegitimate Sith son of Lord Dramath in the Old Sith Empire, Tenebrae carved a path of destruction across the … 0. Vitiate = Capped below TPM Sidious. Level Four. --Taken from The New Essential Chronology, Beyond the vision of the Jedi Knights, somewhere within the darkness, the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time. TPM Sidious 2. A Dark Lord of the Sith in the Order of the Sith Lords, recorded by history as the most successful who had ever lived, his deeds resulted in overthrow the ancient Republic and the noble Jedi … Literally millions. Born to farmers on the planet Medriass in 5113 BBY, Tenebraewas always unnatural, having eyes as black as space and never displaying emotion. Vitiate 25% . … Re: Revan, unchained Vaylin & SWTOR Vitiate vs ROTJ Sidious on Fri 10 Jan 2020 - 11:29 It's almost as though I was referring to more than one person when I said "all have some pretty great feats". Valkorion would solo continents full of Sidious. Yes, yes, yes. Vitiate has, among other things, been referred to as the "most powerful force user in the mythos,". telekinesis probably the most versatile and most useful and most commonly used force ability in star wars sidious outclasses vitate with it. Re: Tenebrae/Vitiate/Valkorion VS. Sheev Palpatine/Darth Sidious. Who Wins? He is the ruler of two Empires and uses the Force to annihilate planets. Vitiate is mentally powerful,but Sidious is the defining member of his epoch. NotAA3 . Forum Posts. Want some free stuff? I hope it gets the attention it deserves. RotS Sidious 3. Tenebraethe Sith Lord Darth Vitiate who was known to his reconstituted Sith Empire as the Sith Emperor and to his Eternal Empire as Valkorionwas an ancient dark side entity of enormous power who manipulated galactic affairs for 1,500 years. 1. --Taken from Insider #86: Yoda's Right Arm. Sith Archivist wrote: DARK LORD OF THE SITH wrote: Sith Archivist wrote:Valk wins. Luke was able to somwhat compete with Abeloth who wrecked the … He was born absolutely evil. this also explains why neither have ever used a ritual mid fight. ... Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. watch here you see several non force users get right back up with no signs of injury for those on mobile go to 1:11:41 .meanwhile in the lords of the sith novel sidious (while holding back) casually crushs a heavy fighter with the force (bare in mind just its shields were far to strong for infantry missiles to damage). Grandmaster Luke Skywalker vs Emperor Vitiate - Force Battle deactivated-5e8a1f5fafc4e. this shows just how much more ridiculously powerful sidious lightening is than vitiates. They've both killed their fair share of planets, I think, but Vitiate managed to harness all the death and destruction on a planet full of Sith Lords to grant himself immortality. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, several get hit but none collapse till 2:47 when he hits them a second time, Seriously look how small they are and they are standard turrets yet she was powerful engouh to survive a blast of vitiate lightening, starkiller who vaporised 3 people with a quick burst of his lightening, far more powerful lightening from starkiller, watch here you see several non force users get right back up with no signs of injury for those on mobile go to 1:11:41, scourge tells the hero of tython that vitiate tricked those sith into performing the ritual that killed them, I made my own comment giving the reasons sidious woudl beat vitiate. Sidious didn't even get pass a century, nor did utilize rituals to permanently buff himself as Vitiate did. But first, he would need his own apprentice. Close. No other Darth Sidious Vs Valkorion threads should be made to avoid cluttering the forum with multiple similar threads. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Sidious vs Vitiate STAR WARS: The Old Republic > English > STAR WARS Discussion Sidious vs Vitiate Reply. I think vitiate would easily dominate Sidious before turning … Canonically it says Darth Sidious is the strongest Sith Lord to have ever lived, George Lucas even agreed with that statement but it was before Vitate's concept existed. Most people don't realize it, but Sidious was a lot more powerful than Vitiate ever was. I'm rather unfamiliar with this but I've seen posts on the internet (most trusted place on earth clearly) that Revan's resistance to Vitiate was aided by the spirit of Meetra Surik. Forum Posts. Some potential starting points of discussion: Tenebrae at 13 years of age, just before meeting Marka Ragnos. Twin sabers are not for fighting Jedi. Follow 26473. Basically The Emperor vs. Palps has a fresh clone body to work with. Sidious needs/uses technology to kill planets. Vader = At best a threat to ROTS/ANH Sidious but vastly below him by ROTJ. Probably Sidious, we have better combat feats for him. Sidious accomplished what the Sith wanted. mental attacks: doesn't matter who has the advantage neither are going to be able to do anything to the other mentally as they are both to strong. rituals: i'll give vitiate the edge here wont bother explaining why as rituals are useless in a 1v1 because they require multiple people and/or a lot of time to perform. In this video I am pitting Darth Sidious up against Darth Vitiate. Follow 3700. Re: Revan, unchained Vaylin & SWTOR Vitiate vs ROTJ Sidious… vitiate was stated to be the most powerful sith ever when he was around. The entire point of the Rule of 2 is that Sidious is supposed to be far, far more powerful than the old Sith because it's been an unbroken chain of student surpassing master, so I can see where that's coming from. Star Wars is an American epic space opera franchise, created by George Lucas and centered around a film series that began with the eponymous 1977 movie. lightsaber: sidious mastered every single lightsaber form he toyed with maul and savage (bare in mind maul mastered several lightsaber forms) held his own against yoda ,out dueled luke ect vitate is literally featless with a lightsaber and it doesnt even seem he has one as in the revan novel he never uses one and picks up revans when he's about to cut revan in half. 3 years ago. Tenebrae—the Sith Lord Darth Vitiate who was known to his reconstituted Sith Empire as the Sith Emperor and to his Eternal Empire as Valkorion—was an ancient dark side entity of enormous power who manipulated galactic affairs for 1,500 years. I believe RotS and DE Sidious could fight and defeat Vitiate, Vitiate has, among other things, been referred to as the "most powerful force user in the mythos," and "the embodiment of the Dark Side of the Force.". You can comment on aptitude in a particular area of the Force, but unless you have a way of objectively measuring their abilities, it just turns into a popularity contest. Vitiate is still a worse duelist than Sidious, and considering their roughly equal combat force power that's all he needs for a win. Re: Valkorion vs Darth Sidious (ROTJ) on November 13th 2020, 12:21 pm. Which of these two were more powerful? Only one of which was very powerful ,Jedi master Narezz one of the jedi on the strike team was injured by 3 small turrets on hoth Seriously look how small they are Sidious would easily make just as short work of them ass vitiate did. I wouldn’t mind someone surpassing them, but I’d want to see it done in a covert fashion that was built over multiple films. meanwhile sidious lightening was able to instantly kill an entire battalion of stormtroopers. on January 9th 2020, 6:37 pm. Sidious is the most powerful Sith ever to live. 3 years ago. starkiller who vaporised 3 people with a quick burst of his lightening then vader goes ahead and tanks this far more powerful lightening from starkiller. Did you read, and Debunk Ant's explanation for the Revan vs Vitiate event. Press J to jump to the feed. deactivated-5ac4e862bd47b. 11. He's never used it in a fight. Sidious is also more powerful, period, so his victory seems assured, here. In this video I am pitting Darth Sidious up against Darth Vitiate. Vitiate/Valkorion is pretty much all of this too. There's no way in hell either of them is Abeloth, tho; she was just a normal, mortal Force-user content with living by the Ones' sides (about 100,000 years before Vitiate/Valkorion was even born). Vitiate was the Emperor of the Sith for over a millennium during the Old Republic era, reconstructing it after the Great Hyperspace War. Some people want this duel.. now you have it ! Sidious is more powerful than Vitiate. While I like the idea of seeing new sith in the upcoming canon material I think they should keep Sidious and Vader the most powerful so that it doesn't undermine the effects of the original movies. Jan 8, 2020 #26 Ertwin said: As poor Mace Windu found out. Neither of which are even close to top tier force users. already prepared plan of taking control of the republic... for a few decades, until his own incompetence as a ruler and master got him killed. TFU Sidious 4. Only DE Sidious is beating Valk. Dolph. Sidious has better feats, he's clearly faster(as shown by revan vs vitiate), and the notion vitiate can somehow end this before sabers become a factor is ridiculous. Vitiate has nuked a galaxy. IG. Archived . get reddit premium. The statement that many people fall back on when People argue against Sidious being the most … Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. before you argue vitiate dominated 8000 sith lords they willingly joined the ritual scourge tells the hero of tython that vitiate tricked those sith into performing the ritual that killed them. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. The David Copperfield of Sith. Close. immortality: Vitiate needed to feed of the deaths of the 10,000 - 100,000 of people who died during the big battle at the end of the shadow of revan expansion meanwhile sidious could return whenever he wanted (though he did originally need some ancient sith to teach him how to do it). Follow 5311. I think Vitiate wins. Edit: added a few sources to some of my claims. Vitiate could be MVP or he could lose to both depending upon the above. --Taken from Vader: The Ultimate Guide, Yoda went after Palpatine in the empty Senate chamber, but could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history. Revan isnt even on obi wans level and dooku made short work of him. The … Why do you think so? Both are at the peak . 356. ( http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/64880/3526018-2721837233-26681.jpg ) Anyone who tells you Vitiate … I guess to back what I'm saying here's Palpatine's RT: The Phantom Menace, Revenge of the Sith, Return of the Jedi, Dark Empire. As a side note, I don't know how much the whole "sever force" thing goes as far as someone like Sidious, but that's a thing that he was talented at. the battle takes place on endor so all the little ewoks can get fried by stray lightning, Who takes this in a battle of the Emperors? He does ridiculously crazy shit in the EU, and has knowledge of things Vitiate/Valkorion has never even thought about. He is the immortal emperor, and despite it not being canon, I think he surpasses Sidious no question. Is there any Validity to that?Because if there is, then perhaps that is a possible observation of the situation and how he was able to resist. Go. Lightening: Vitiates lightening has never instantly killed anyone revan got hit by it didn't absorb or redirect any of it yet he wasn't killed (though he was very close and his face was all blistered from the heat) when he fought the jedi strike team you see several get hit but none collapse till 2:47 when he hits them a second time despite at least one of them being increibly weak compared to masters of sidious time Jedi master Narezz one of the jedi on the strike team was injured by 3 small turrets on hoth Seriously look how small they are and they are standard turrets yet she was powerful engouh to survive a blast of vitiate lightening. But I'm not well versed in the whole Star Wars Lore. Life drain: Sidious has drained byss the second most populated planet in the galaxy (second to coruscant of cause) vitate drained a planet with a population in the millions with a ritual and the help of 8000 sith lords scourge even says when he first meets the jedi council in swtor that he tricked those sith intop performing the ritual with him, sidious didn't need a ritual or help he did it by himself. Valkorion (like other SW EU villains) is much too mighty. 3 Germanicus. He understood and surpassed every technique the Jedi had, and mastered every secrets of the Sith as well as likely mastering every lightsaber form. EU i feel the movie sidious didn't show the power he could. Level Six. Vitiate boosted his power using rituals, and sorcery but Sidious is far stronger with the force. Who Wins? Both canon and Legends feats applyBattle takes place on neutral ground Can Vitiate win, or surpass Sidious with his KOTFE fea Just almost entirely evil in that he was absolutely selfish. KMC Forums > Star Wars > Star Wars: Literature & Expanded Universe > Star Wars Versus Forum > Vitiate vs ROTS Sidious. Also, nice prompt. Born into … Both men are at the height of their power, DE for Palps and Eternal Empire for Vitiate/Valkorion. You are indeed where you belong. Why do you think so? I doubt that 3 Yoda level characters are losing to ROTJ Sidious tbh. Personally from what i've seen of Sidious and what I've read of Vitiate I think there would be no contest. This is the Battle of the Emperors. I would say Vitiate. Overpowering the will of a ton of strong force users is something, but he was defeated in a similar (but inferior) way like DE Sidious. Ergo, Sidious's dueling feats still translate to his combative Force mastery, which far exceeds that of Vitiate. Darth Sidious ruled the galaxy for decades and Vitiate ruled for over 1400 years. as sidious ahdn't been born for 1000s when vitiate was around that doesn't put him above sidious, though obviously sidious being stated the most powerful puts him above vitiate. Showdown of Emperors, who is the master here... Don't forget to like the video and subscribe to see more content! Level Two. At the mere age of six, Tenebrae developed Force powers and learned that his true father was the ruler of Medriass, Sith Lord … As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting. [FP]=900 Anakin Skywalker (Full Potential) 2. Match Up Monday. and then killed all nine members of his Dark Council. I guess it depends on just how much of a physical god they've made Vitiate into. Share. level 1 Darth Sidious was the fulfillment of that prophecy, capable of exacting the Sith's revenge on the Jedi for having nearly eradicated the practitioners of … Sidious has quotes from multiple sources that put him as the most powerful Sith in all of history, plus quotes saying he mastered all force abilities, plus he's able to use force storm which is much more deadly than Vitiates planetary destruction. Dec 14, 2019 #39 Murazor said: Sorry if I come across as too forceful. In term's of raw power and skill Vitiate should be far greater than any other because of the simple fact that he's lived longer than any other before and after. vitiate lacks any sort of defence to even survive any tk attacks from sidious, as vitate was knocked back by revans force push a guy who's force push couldnt even badly hurt none force users. Followers. Vitiatewas the Emperor of the Sith for over a millennium during the Old Republic era, reconstructing it after the Great Hyperspace War. Ultimately it doesn't change to much in my view. Exar Kun = Capped below TPM Sidious. on December 9th 2019, 6:19 am . Showdown of Emperors, who is the master here... Don't forget to like the video and subscribe to see more content! As much as I love SW legends, I personally hate Vitiate because he is just a blatant, lazy copy of Sidious. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! 6 years ago. Darth Sidious VS Vitiate Thread starter Vitiate; Start date Jan 3, 2020; Prev. Want some free stuff? NewGuy01. Without them, we'd all be speaking German right now. Re: Valkorion vs Darth Sidious (ROTJ) on November 13th 2020, 12:21 pm. He's also ridiculously fast. He wouldn't even need the force to kill him. 1; 2; First Prev 2 of 2 Go to page. telekinesis probably the most versatile and most useful and most commonly used force ability in star wars sidious outclasses vitiate with it. then revan we don't know the circumstances of it or how revan was originally turned by vitiate but we know in the revan novel he is able to resist vitiate so either revan was far from his prime or there was some other circumstance like revan was weakened or vitiate had help in which case the feat isnt impressive enough to be usable in this discussion. Sith Archivist wrote: DARK LORD OF THE SITH wrote: Sith Archivist wrote:Valk wins. DE Palpatine/Darth Sidious Respect Thread By ShootingNova December 25, 2014 69 Comments My final Palpatine respect thread, the final part of my series of Darth Sidious respect threads. I hold RotJ Sidious at Exar Kun level and Valk is comfortably above Kun. 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Born in 5113 BBY as the illegitimate Sith son of Lord Dramath in the Old Sith Empire, Tenebrae carved a path of destruction across the … It's highly unlikely that Sidious just Vitiate reincarnate, but it would be a neat explanation. We know Dooku's far, far below Sidious so you can't exactly assume that Dooku's beyond Plagueis's level. We know he's pretty much always growing in power. Sidious has flown billions of lightyears in a few months. Yes, it sounds just like Sidious’ scheme, but the difference would be that we wouldn’t see it coming like we did with the OT and the PT. RotJ Sidious 5. whowouldwin join leave 258,452 readers. Although I would still maintain that Vitiate is more powerful over all. It's stated multiple times that Sidious is the most powerful Sith in history by multiple unbiased factual quotes, and not only does he have those, [he has the showings of power to back it up.] Match Up Monday. Was there one that was more dangerous? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Maul knew the truth, he understood what little everyone else did. Wiki Points. Don't get me wrong, Sidious is also incredibly formidable, but for the most part, not formidable enough. The Emperor. “Yoda went after Palpatine in the empty Senate chamber, but could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history.” --Taken from The New Essential Chronology “"The Rebels were turning out to be more troublesome than many had expected. Poll Grandmaster Yoda Vs. Emperor Vitiate (51 votes) Yoda 75% . Re: Revan, unchained Vaylin & SWTOR Vitiate vs ROTJ Sidious on Fri 10 Jan 2020 - 11:29 It's almost as though I was referring to more than one person when I said "all have some pretty great feats". Vader imagined the power that could be his if he crushed Palpatine and established his own rule over the Empire. needless to say if at any point sidious gets close enough to use his saber vitate is dead. So, yeah. Wiki Points. I just know what happend in the movies and everything that I've read up on about the Old Republic. 0. so sidious one shots easily sk makes vitiate and exar prey for their souls and literally gives vader the same treatment we saw lately on the new continuity as for revan gives him kolar treatment. DE Sidious Edit: I've just noticed the valk vs sheev thread @Azronger made is supposed to be the only thread on the subject so my apologies for adding another one. Vitiate has, among other things, been referred to as the "most powerful force user in the mythos," and "the embodiment of the Dark Side of the Force." Posted by. Page 1 of 58: 1: 2 3: 11: 51 > Last » Shokzman: 02.15.2012 , 11:48 PM | #1: Quote. What Sidious is it? Tenebraethe Sith Lord Darth Vitiate who was known to his reconstituted Sith Empire as the Sith Emperor and to his Eternal Empire as Valkorionwas an ancient dark side entity of enormous power who manipulated galactic affairs for 1,500 years. GXrevs06. They've both killed their fair share of planets, I think, but Vitiate managed to harness all the death and destruction on a planet full of Sith Lords to grant himself immortality. The Emperor. Any updated opinions or new insights should be posted here. Green Lantern simply has better feats than Sidious. Kun is … Sidious was stated to be the most powerful ever when he was around. ... Lord Vitiate vs. Darth Sidious (self.whowouldwin) submitted 5 years ago by Rambo7112. Which Sidious almost failed at.) It's stated multiple times that Sidious is the most powerful Sith in history by multiple unbiased factual quotes, and not only does he have those, [he has the showings of power to back it up.] neither will just stand there while the other prepares a ritual. (http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/64880/3526018-2721837233-26681.jpg) Anyone who tells you Vitiate is stronger is someone who's knowledge on Sidious isn't very large. Palpatine corrupted the entire Jedi Order, blitzed three high level Jedi Masters, defeated Yoda, defeated Galen as soon as he got serious, subdued Vader multiple times, defeated Dark Empire Luke, and could've beat Windu with his force lightning. Vitiate = ~ TPM Sidious Valkorian = ~ TPM Sidious . Therefore, Valkorion is at least 236,677,140 times more powerful than Sidious. Overall sidious is winning this if he gets in close vitiate has no chance, and even with the force he has a huge edge. So yeah sidious is more powerful than vitiate. If you want to go that way he co-opted his master's (who, personally, was far more worthy in that he had almost achieved his own method of immortality before being killed in a drunken slumber. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Gallery 4 Disney Canon Respect Threads 5 Legends/EU Respect Threads 6 Others 7 References Emperor Sheev Palpatine, secretly the Dark Lord of the Sith Darth Sidious, was the last Supreme Chancellor of the Galactic Republic, the first and only emperor of the Galactic Empire, and arguably the most powerful Sith Lord in the galaxy's history. :D My Top 30 A.I. Level Three. Sidious is the more "realistic" version. Vitiate subdued Malak and Reven, incredible warriors nearly unmatched throughout the galaxy, and then killed all nine members of his Dark Council, took out a strike team of some of the Order's most powerful Jedi. Page 2 of 2 • 1, 2. Revan, Malek, and the council aren't as strong as them. Vitiate was overpowered to be honest. --Taken from The Complete Visual Dictionary, When Yoda crosses sabers with the movie's arch-villain, he doesn't launch into a pinwheeling display of acrobatics, as he did against Count Dooku in Episode II. 2. Born in 5113 BBY as the illegitimate Sith son of Lord Dramath in the Old Sith Empire, Tenebrae carved a path of destruction across the … 0. Vitiate = Capped below TPM Sidious. Level Four. --Taken from The New Essential Chronology, Beyond the vision of the Jedi Knights, somewhere within the darkness, the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time. TPM Sidious 2. A Dark Lord of the Sith in the Order of the Sith Lords, recorded by history as the most successful who had ever lived, his deeds resulted in overthrow the ancient Republic and the noble Jedi … Literally millions. Born to farmers on the planet Medriass in 5113 BBY, Tenebraewas always unnatural, having eyes as black as space and never displaying emotion. Vitiate 25% . … Re: Revan, unchained Vaylin & SWTOR Vitiate vs ROTJ Sidious on Fri 10 Jan 2020 - 11:29 It's almost as though I was referring to more than one person when I said "all have some pretty great feats". Valkorion would solo continents full of Sidious. Yes, yes, yes. Vitiate has, among other things, been referred to as the "most powerful force user in the mythos,". telekinesis probably the most versatile and most useful and most commonly used force ability in star wars sidious outclasses vitate with it. Re: Tenebrae/Vitiate/Valkorion VS. Sheev Palpatine/Darth Sidious. Who Wins? He is the ruler of two Empires and uses the Force to annihilate planets. Vitiate is mentally powerful,but Sidious is the defining member of his epoch. NotAA3 . Forum Posts. Want some free stuff? I hope it gets the attention it deserves. RotS Sidious 3. Tenebraethe Sith Lord Darth Vitiate who was known to his reconstituted Sith Empire as the Sith Emperor and to his Eternal Empire as Valkorionwas an ancient dark side entity of enormous power who manipulated galactic affairs for 1,500 years. 1. --Taken from Insider #86: Yoda's Right Arm. Sith Archivist wrote: DARK LORD OF THE SITH wrote: Sith Archivist wrote:Valk wins. Luke was able to somwhat compete with Abeloth who wrecked the … He was born absolutely evil. this also explains why neither have ever used a ritual mid fight. ... Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. watch here you see several non force users get right back up with no signs of injury for those on mobile go to 1:11:41 .meanwhile in the lords of the sith novel sidious (while holding back) casually crushs a heavy fighter with the force (bare in mind just its shields were far to strong for infantry missiles to damage). Grandmaster Luke Skywalker vs Emperor Vitiate - Force Battle deactivated-5e8a1f5fafc4e. this shows just how much more ridiculously powerful sidious lightening is than vitiates. They've both killed their fair share of planets, I think, but Vitiate managed to harness all the death and destruction on a planet full of Sith Lords to grant himself immortality. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, several get hit but none collapse till 2:47 when he hits them a second time, Seriously look how small they are and they are standard turrets yet she was powerful engouh to survive a blast of vitiate lightening, starkiller who vaporised 3 people with a quick burst of his lightening, far more powerful lightening from starkiller, watch here you see several non force users get right back up with no signs of injury for those on mobile go to 1:11:41, scourge tells the hero of tython that vitiate tricked those sith into performing the ritual that killed them, I made my own comment giving the reasons sidious woudl beat vitiate. Sidious didn't even get pass a century, nor did utilize rituals to permanently buff himself as Vitiate did. But first, he would need his own apprentice. Close. No other Darth Sidious Vs Valkorion threads should be made to avoid cluttering the forum with multiple similar threads. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Sidious vs Vitiate STAR WARS: The Old Republic > English > STAR WARS Discussion Sidious vs Vitiate Reply. I think vitiate would easily dominate Sidious before turning … Canonically it says Darth Sidious is the strongest Sith Lord to have ever lived, George Lucas even agreed with that statement but it was before Vitate's concept existed. Most people don't realize it, but Sidious was a lot more powerful than Vitiate ever was. I'm rather unfamiliar with this but I've seen posts on the internet (most trusted place on earth clearly) that Revan's resistance to Vitiate was aided by the spirit of Meetra Surik. Forum Posts. Some potential starting points of discussion: Tenebrae at 13 years of age, just before meeting Marka Ragnos. Twin sabers are not for fighting Jedi. Follow 26473. Basically The Emperor vs. Palps has a fresh clone body to work with. Sidious needs/uses technology to kill planets. Vader = At best a threat to ROTS/ANH Sidious but vastly below him by ROTJ. Probably Sidious, we have better combat feats for him. Sidious accomplished what the Sith wanted. mental attacks: doesn't matter who has the advantage neither are going to be able to do anything to the other mentally as they are both to strong. rituals: i'll give vitiate the edge here wont bother explaining why as rituals are useless in a 1v1 because they require multiple people and/or a lot of time to perform. In this video I am pitting Darth Sidious up against Darth Vitiate. Follow 3700. Re: Revan, unchained Vaylin & SWTOR Vitiate vs ROTJ Sidious… vitiate was stated to be the most powerful sith ever when he was around. The entire point of the Rule of 2 is that Sidious is supposed to be far, far more powerful than the old Sith because it's been an unbroken chain of student surpassing master, so I can see where that's coming from. Star Wars is an American epic space opera franchise, created by George Lucas and centered around a film series that began with the eponymous 1977 movie. lightsaber: sidious mastered every single lightsaber form he toyed with maul and savage (bare in mind maul mastered several lightsaber forms) held his own against yoda ,out dueled luke ect vitate is literally featless with a lightsaber and it doesnt even seem he has one as in the revan novel he never uses one and picks up revans when he's about to cut revan in half. 3 years ago. Tenebrae—the Sith Lord Darth Vitiate who was known to his reconstituted Sith Empire as the Sith Emperor and to his Eternal Empire as Valkorion—was an ancient dark side entity of enormous power who manipulated galactic affairs for 1,500 years. I believe RotS and DE Sidious could fight and defeat Vitiate, Vitiate has, among other things, been referred to as the "most powerful force user in the mythos," and "the embodiment of the Dark Side of the Force.". You can comment on aptitude in a particular area of the Force, but unless you have a way of objectively measuring their abilities, it just turns into a popularity contest. Vitiate is still a worse duelist than Sidious, and considering their roughly equal combat force power that's all he needs for a win. Re: Valkorion vs Darth Sidious (ROTJ) on November 13th 2020, 12:21 pm. Which of these two were more powerful? Only one of which was very powerful ,Jedi master Narezz one of the jedi on the strike team was injured by 3 small turrets on hoth Seriously look how small they are Sidious would easily make just as short work of them ass vitiate did. I wouldn’t mind someone surpassing them, but I’d want to see it done in a covert fashion that was built over multiple films. meanwhile sidious lightening was able to instantly kill an entire battalion of stormtroopers. on January 9th 2020, 6:37 pm. Sidious is the most powerful Sith ever to live. 3 years ago. starkiller who vaporised 3 people with a quick burst of his lightening then vader goes ahead and tanks this far more powerful lightening from starkiller. Did you read, and Debunk Ant's explanation for the Revan vs Vitiate event. Press J to jump to the feed. deactivated-5ac4e862bd47b. 11. He's never used it in a fight. Sidious is also more powerful, period, so his victory seems assured, here. In this video I am pitting Darth Sidious up against Darth Vitiate. Vitiate/Valkorion is pretty much all of this too. There's no way in hell either of them is Abeloth, tho; she was just a normal, mortal Force-user content with living by the Ones' sides (about 100,000 years before Vitiate/Valkorion was even born). Vitiate was the Emperor of the Sith for over a millennium during the Old Republic era, reconstructing it after the Great Hyperspace War. Some people want this duel.. now you have it ! Sidious is more powerful than Vitiate. While I like the idea of seeing new sith in the upcoming canon material I think they should keep Sidious and Vader the most powerful so that it doesn't undermine the effects of the original movies. Jan 8, 2020 #26 Ertwin said: As poor Mace Windu found out. Neither of which are even close to top tier force users. already prepared plan of taking control of the republic... for a few decades, until his own incompetence as a ruler and master got him killed. TFU Sidious 4. Only DE Sidious is beating Valk. Dolph. Sidious has better feats, he's clearly faster(as shown by revan vs vitiate), and the notion vitiate can somehow end this before sabers become a factor is ridiculous. Vitiate has nuked a galaxy. IG. Archived . get reddit premium. The statement that many people fall back on when People argue against Sidious being the most … Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. before you argue vitiate dominated 8000 sith lords they willingly joined the ritual scourge tells the hero of tython that vitiate tricked those sith into performing the ritual that killed them. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. The David Copperfield of Sith. Close. immortality: Vitiate needed to feed of the deaths of the 10,000 - 100,000 of people who died during the big battle at the end of the shadow of revan expansion meanwhile sidious could return whenever he wanted (though he did originally need some ancient sith to teach him how to do it). Follow 5311. I think Vitiate wins. Edit: added a few sources to some of my claims. Vitiate could be MVP or he could lose to both depending upon the above. --Taken from Vader: The Ultimate Guide, Yoda went after Palpatine in the empty Senate chamber, but could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history. Revan isnt even on obi wans level and dooku made short work of him. The … Why do you think so? Both are at the peak . 356. ( http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/64880/3526018-2721837233-26681.jpg ) Anyone who tells you Vitiate … I guess to back what I'm saying here's Palpatine's RT: The Phantom Menace, Revenge of the Sith, Return of the Jedi, Dark Empire. As a side note, I don't know how much the whole "sever force" thing goes as far as someone like Sidious, but that's a thing that he was talented at. the battle takes place on endor so all the little ewoks can get fried by stray lightning, Who takes this in a battle of the Emperors? He does ridiculously crazy shit in the EU, and has knowledge of things Vitiate/Valkorion has never even thought about. He is the immortal emperor, and despite it not being canon, I think he surpasses Sidious no question. Is there any Validity to that?Because if there is, then perhaps that is a possible observation of the situation and how he was able to resist. Go. Lightening: Vitiates lightening has never instantly killed anyone revan got hit by it didn't absorb or redirect any of it yet he wasn't killed (though he was very close and his face was all blistered from the heat) when he fought the jedi strike team you see several get hit but none collapse till 2:47 when he hits them a second time despite at least one of them being increibly weak compared to masters of sidious time Jedi master Narezz one of the jedi on the strike team was injured by 3 small turrets on hoth Seriously look how small they are and they are standard turrets yet she was powerful engouh to survive a blast of vitiate lightening. But I'm not well versed in the whole Star Wars Lore. Life drain: Sidious has drained byss the second most populated planet in the galaxy (second to coruscant of cause) vitate drained a planet with a population in the millions with a ritual and the help of 8000 sith lords scourge even says when he first meets the jedi council in swtor that he tricked those sith intop performing the ritual with him, sidious didn't need a ritual or help he did it by himself. Valkorion (like other SW EU villains) is much too mighty. 3 Germanicus. He understood and surpassed every technique the Jedi had, and mastered every secrets of the Sith as well as likely mastering every lightsaber form. EU i feel the movie sidious didn't show the power he could. Level Six. Vitiate boosted his power using rituals, and sorcery but Sidious is far stronger with the force. Who Wins? Both canon and Legends feats applyBattle takes place on neutral ground Can Vitiate win, or surpass Sidious with his KOTFE fea Just almost entirely evil in that he was absolutely selfish. KMC Forums > Star Wars > Star Wars: Literature & Expanded Universe > Star Wars Versus Forum > Vitiate vs ROTS Sidious. Also, nice prompt. Born into … Both men are at the height of their power, DE for Palps and Eternal Empire for Vitiate/Valkorion. You are indeed where you belong. Why do you think so? I doubt that 3 Yoda level characters are losing to ROTJ Sidious tbh. Personally from what i've seen of Sidious and what I've read of Vitiate I think there would be no contest. This is the Battle of the Emperors. I would say Vitiate. Overpowering the will of a ton of strong force users is something, but he was defeated in a similar (but inferior) way like DE Sidious. Ergo, Sidious's dueling feats still translate to his combative Force mastery, which far exceeds that of Vitiate. Darth Sidious ruled the galaxy for decades and Vitiate ruled for over 1400 years. as sidious ahdn't been born for 1000s when vitiate was around that doesn't put him above sidious, though obviously sidious being stated the most powerful puts him above vitiate. Showdown of Emperors, who is the master here... Don't forget to like the video and subscribe to see more content! Level Two. At the mere age of six, Tenebrae developed Force powers and learned that his true father was the ruler of Medriass, Sith Lord … As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting. [FP]=900 Anakin Skywalker (Full Potential) 2. Match Up Monday. and then killed all nine members of his Dark Council. I guess it depends on just how much of a physical god they've made Vitiate into. Share. level 1 Darth Sidious was the fulfillment of that prophecy, capable of exacting the Sith's revenge on the Jedi for having nearly eradicated the practitioners of … Sidious has quotes from multiple sources that put him as the most powerful Sith in all of history, plus quotes saying he mastered all force abilities, plus he's able to use force storm which is much more deadly than Vitiates planetary destruction. Dec 14, 2019 #39 Murazor said: Sorry if I come across as too forceful. In term's of raw power and skill Vitiate should be far greater than any other because of the simple fact that he's lived longer than any other before and after. vitiate lacks any sort of defence to even survive any tk attacks from sidious, as vitate was knocked back by revans force push a guy who's force push couldnt even badly hurt none force users. Followers. Vitiatewas the Emperor of the Sith for over a millennium during the Old Republic era, reconstructing it after the Great Hyperspace War. Ultimately it doesn't change to much in my view. Exar Kun = Capped below TPM Sidious. on December 9th 2019, 6:19 am . Showdown of Emperors, who is the master here... Don't forget to like the video and subscribe to see more content! As much as I love SW legends, I personally hate Vitiate because he is just a blatant, lazy copy of Sidious. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! 6 years ago. Darth Sidious VS Vitiate Thread starter Vitiate; Start date Jan 3, 2020; Prev. Want some free stuff? NewGuy01. Without them, we'd all be speaking German right now. Re: Valkorion vs Darth Sidious (ROTJ) on November 13th 2020, 12:21 pm. He's also ridiculously fast. He wouldn't even need the force to kill him. 1; 2; First Prev 2 of 2 Go to page. telekinesis probably the most versatile and most useful and most commonly used force ability in star wars sidious outclasses vitiate with it. then revan we don't know the circumstances of it or how revan was originally turned by vitiate but we know in the revan novel he is able to resist vitiate so either revan was far from his prime or there was some other circumstance like revan was weakened or vitiate had help in which case the feat isnt impressive enough to be usable in this discussion. Sith Archivist wrote: DARK LORD OF THE SITH wrote: Sith Archivist wrote:Valk wins. DE Palpatine/Darth Sidious Respect Thread By ShootingNova December 25, 2014 69 Comments My final Palpatine respect thread, the final part of my series of Darth Sidious respect threads. I hold RotJ Sidious at Exar Kun level and Valk is comfortably above Kun. 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